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Offline Sdaniels

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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #60 on: September 26, 2020, 08:40:20 am »
Okay, try this video for filtration measurement...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5W6EQYeCfI
Yes -- that video depicted a test of containment of a specific contaminant, and considerable attention is deserved for its results.  However much better it is than the other jackleg so-called "analysis" I have seen, there is still room for improvement, such as some way to more precisely measure the contaminant infiltration besides the relative glow it produces.  But for now, the results give a relatively acceptable and repeatable process for contaminant containment analysis. 

I would hope we see more of this kind of testing and less to none of the jackleg, meaningless drivel put out in the other "I cut open to see what they are made of" videos.

This is the only place I found that attempts to measure how well a filter removes contaminants from the oil.  But even he says the more a filter operates the better it filters so you really don't know if any given filter that doesn't perform as well in the beginning doesn't perform better down the road.  All this proved to me is that it's still a crap shoot regarding which is the best filter.  More filtering media didn't prove to filter better.  How many of those filters had low spring pressure on the bypass valve?  That lets unfiltered oil run in the system.  I'd be inclined to pick a filter that has the best spring pressure on that valve than another that shows better filtering.  Better filtering doesn't mean as much if a weak bypass allows unfiltered oil to flow.  If you really want to know how well a filter is working, send your oil to Blackstone for analysis.  You'll find out how well it is along with many other things about the state of the motor, how well the oil is performing, etc.  I'd bet good money if you change your oil regularly with the filter you won't find any significant difference in filter choice.
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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #61 on: September 26, 2020, 11:06:02 am »
Agree 100% with the oil analysis comment. When I owned a 3000gt VR4 we did this. 

As to the K&N recall, check the years, this filters are no longer an issue; unless there was another recall.

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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #62 on: September 26, 2020, 11:11:52 am »
Okay, try this video for filtration measurement...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5W6EQYeCfI
Yes -- that video depicted a test of containment of a specific contaminant, and considerable attention is deserved for its results.  However much better it is than the other jackleg so-called "analysis" I have seen, there is still room for improvement, such as some way to more precisely measure the contaminant infiltration besides the relative glow it produces.  But for now, the results give a relatively acceptable and repeatable process for contaminant containment analysis. 

I would hope we see more of this kind of testing and less to none of the jackleg, meaningless drivel put out in the other "I cut open to see what they are made of" videos.

This is the only place I found that attempts to measure how well a filter removes contaminants from the oil.  But even he says the more a filter operates the better it filters so you really don't know if any given filter that doesn't perform as well in the beginning doesn't perform better down the road.  All this proved to me is that it's still a crap shoot regarding which is the best filter.  More filtering media didn't prove to filter better.  How many of those filters had low spring pressure on the bypass valve?  That lets unfiltered oil run in the system.  I'd be inclined to pick a filter that has the best spring pressure on that valve than another that shows better filtering.  Better filtering doesn't mean as much if a weak bypass allows unfiltered oil to flow.  If you really want to know how well a filter is working, send your oil to Blackstone for analysis.  You'll find out how well it is along with many other things about the state of the motor, how well the oil is performing, etc.  I'd bet good money if you change your oil regularly with the filter you won't find any significant difference in filter choice.
I would agree with that.  I also like the idea of a metal screen over the bypass valve as extra insurance over an internal engine part failure.

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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #63 on: September 26, 2020, 02:52:57 pm »
Based on that last video, the OEM filter uses a relief that opens at 12 psi. The K&N opens at 2 (K&N states 1.92), Fram @ 3 and Mobile 1 @ 6. Wix and HiFlo come closest to OEM specs. It seems the filters that filtered best were also fitted with weaker relief valve springs. One way or another, you have to relieve pump pressure. A filter that lets larger particles thru and has a high pressure relief valve will let thru less larger particles than one that has smaller pores (per area) and a low pressure valve.
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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #64 on: September 27, 2020, 03:46:20 pm »
Hi, does anyone know if I can use a Yamaha 5GH-13440-70 filter on a Bolt?

Haven't tried to install it yet, but in case it does fit, would there be a problem using it? I saw someone on the thread with a Honda filter installed and it seems to work.
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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #65 on: September 27, 2020, 04:13:41 pm »
Hi, does anyone know if I can use a Yamaha 5GH-13440-70 filter on a Bolt?

Haven't tried to install it yet, but in case it does fit, would there be a problem using it? I saw someone on the thread with a Honda filter installed and it seems to work.

5GH-13440-50-00 is the recommended part.

See:
https://www.shopyamaha.com/parts-catalog/parts/street-mcy?ls=Road&nw=yamaha-motor-company&dealernumber=#/Yamaha/BOLT_R_SPEC_-_XVS95CFB_-_2015/OIL_CLEANER

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Re: LIST OF COMPATIBLE OIL FILTERS -
« Reply #66 on: September 28, 2020, 12:52:08 am »
Agree 100% with the oil analysis comment. When I owned a 3000gt VR4 we did this. 

As to the K&N recall, check the years, this filters are no longer an issue; unless there was another recall.

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Thanks again Pir8. Good idea, I would prefer the K&N too since they carry the 204 in stores near me.