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Title: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on June 27, 2014, 08:02:15 am
OK, I called Hagon early in the week to get the same shocks as U-bolt overseas. They had to call England to get the bushing sizes, so here's everything you need to know on this side of the pond.

270mm length
35kg springs
14X20 bushings

Be sure to ask for black springs  8)

$199.00

I'll be ordering mine today.

Remember you need the fancy sockets to get your shocks off. If needed I can link to a cheap set that works on Amazon.

http://www.hagonshocksusa.com/
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ShakerNorm on June 27, 2014, 08:29:11 am
For Canucks - Princess Auto has the sockets you need to get that top bolt....

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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Bull Winkle on June 27, 2014, 09:14:55 am
OK, I called Hagon early in the week to get the same shocks as U-bolt overseas. They had to call England to get the bushing sizes, so here's everything you need to know on this side of the pond.

270mm length
35kg springs
14X20 bushings

Be sure to ask for black springs  8)

$199.00

I'll be ordering mine today.

Remember you need the fancy sockets to get your shocks off. If needed I can link to a cheap set that works on Amazon.

http://www.hagonshocksusa.com/
what model of shock is it and do they come in heavier springs, I weigh 300lbs and am wondering if 40 KG springs would be more suitable for my size.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: nuke0907 on June 27, 2014, 01:14:09 pm
For Canucks - Princess Auto has the sockets you need to get that top bolt....

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Good ol' Princess Auto. Once i had a Canadian ship me something from there after i couldn't find it anywhere in the States.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ShakerNorm on June 27, 2014, 01:51:52 pm
Like the Canuck version of Harbor Freight.....

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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on June 27, 2014, 04:52:10 pm
OK, I called Hagon early in the week to get the same shocks as U-bolt overseas. They had to call England to get the bushing sizes, so here's everything you need to know on this side of the pond.

270mm length
35kg springs
14X20 bushings

Be sure to ask for black springs  8)

$199.00

I'll be ordering mine today.

Remember you need the fancy sockets to get your shocks off. If needed I can link to a cheap set that works on Amazon.

http://www.hagonshocksusa.com/
what model of shock is it and do they come in heavier springs, I weigh 300lbs and am wondering if 40 KG springs would be more suitable for my size.

It's the road shock. He actually is shipping me mine with the 30kg shocks. I'm sure he could do a 40 or even 45 for you.

He also told me that they would swap out the springs free of charge if I wanted to go higher.

If I were 300lbs the first thing I'd do is change the shocks! Good luck and let us know how they work for you.

Mine will ship on Monday.  ;D
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on June 27, 2014, 04:58:45 pm
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041X9RO2/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

The T-40 is what you need. But I got the whole set for $20 delivered.

Remember most sets are 5 point, you need 6 point.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on July 07, 2014, 05:20:18 pm
Well, Let me introduce to you the first American Bolt with Hagon shocks! Big thanks to u-bolt and the mates overseas.

Getting them out of the box I was a little worried that it wouldn't make that much of a difference. As you can see with the side by side photo the Hagon's are only a little longer. Once I got them on the bike all my worries vanished.

The difference between the stock shocks and these are quite dramatic. You really feel like you're sitting on a taller bike with these. At 5'10" I can still easily flat foot but now I can see better over traffic. The pegs are higher for more much needed ground clearance and the extra leg room feels good in the knees.

At 165-170lbs nude and sexy I'm very happy with the 30KG springs. I wouldn't want them any stiffer.

Recap
+ Much better ride that you can feel
+ More ground clearance
+ More leg room
+ Can see better in traffic
+ More room for saddlebags
+ Great value

- Not as fancy looking
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/ex500/SSS/Bolt_Hagon_1_zpsa0decb20.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/ex500/SSS/Bolt_Hagon_2_zps9d951d39.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/ex500/SSS/Bolt_Hagon_3_zps3b3eab0b.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/ex500/SSS/Bolt_Hagon_4_zps992f6fc5.jpg)
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: nuke0907 on July 07, 2014, 05:35:22 pm
Can they be made shorter for lowering also?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on July 07, 2014, 05:40:57 pm
All the shocks at Hagon are custom made for your bike so I don't see why not. Give them a call.

Your butt will hate you though.  :P
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: harikishan7 on July 07, 2014, 05:44:56 pm
How does the side stand work with the increased height of the bike.  Does it feel like the bike is leaning off more than before and does it affect it in any way ?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on July 07, 2014, 07:01:27 pm
Yes it does lean more off to the side now on it's stand. The pad is no longer flush with the floor. For lack of a better word it's more on the toe of the pad and a little of the heel is every so slightly off the ground.

For all practical purposes it's just fine. No problems. I don't see any need to fit a longer stand but that would be easy to do.

The extra ride height is a huge plus. I'm very happy with these. I'll report back later when I do a propper freeway ride.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: steevoBC on July 07, 2014, 09:35:48 pm
For Canucks - Princess Auto has the sockets you need to get that top bolt....

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Thanks Norm!
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: daddyrack on July 07, 2014, 09:52:33 pm
Wow. This is completely affordable! This might be my next add on! Or a seat, i haven't decided yet!  ::)
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: u-bolt on July 08, 2014, 04:58:14 am
well done SS Steve for taking the plunge and very pleased you like them. I agree with your sidestand assessment, a bit more lean but still perfectly OK.

You're a bit lighter than me (I'm 196lbs) and I tried 30kg on the first shocks Hagon sent. I needed the 35kg (just, I think) so that's what I have. This fits with your 170lbs / 30kg spring weight.

we're compromised by shock travel, so it's important to get the right spring weight. My 196lbs was only  just too heavy for the 30kg springs, and my 35kg springs would take a far bit more weight I think. B.Winkle what preload do you ride with on your stock shocks? If you're on #3 or #4 I'd try the 35kg first, if you're on #5 then go for heavier springs (think that would be 40kg).

nuke, they have a range of lengths, I know they have 255mm, same as stock, which gives just a few more mm travel than stock and more damping. Don't know about shorter than stock. 255mm would give you a slightly better ride for the stock height.
Title: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Greasyjonny on July 16, 2014, 09:54:42 am
Was wondering how you guys still felt about these after your honeymoon period and a little more riding. I have these same shocks on my 81 gs450. It's far from touring comfortable, but I attribute that more to the bike being so small than the shocks. Unfortunately I never rode it with the stock shocks so I can't tell how much better it is.
If the stockers are 255mm than the 270 are just a little under 5/8" longer. Also, these can be ordered with short shrouds for a few more bucks to resemble the stock shocks a little more if anyone is interested in that.


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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: u-bolt on July 16, 2014, 02:02:07 pm
I wouldn't call it a comfortable ride with the new shocks, I have a Triumph Tiger 800 too, it has a comfy ride ... creamy luxury by comparison.

the new shocks are a lot more comfortable than the originals and make my Bolt viable for some long rides ... original shocks just didn't work for me.

so the new shocks are a major improvement at not too much cost, the bike rides pretty firm but I get to enjoy the Bolt's good points, not flinch every 100 yards. Also I can corner at a more normal lean angle.

when I renew the rear tire, expect I'll go for 160/80 ... that's way ahead though.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: konrad on July 18, 2014, 08:16:35 pm
is there a chance you are selling your old shocks?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: u-bolt on July 19, 2014, 04:51:18 am
who are you asking Konrad?
I have the base model and will keep the shocks for when I move the bike on.

Steve has R-spec shocks, maybe you're asking him?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on July 19, 2014, 05:55:40 pm
I'm in agreement with U-bolt. It's not a Cadilac ride. They have a sporty feel to them and increased travel is much needed.

The real benifit to me is raising the bike up. The increased cornering is very noticeable. Now I can attack the road much more aggressively. The bike is up to the task it just suffers from low pegs.

Once I upgrade the seat I wouldn't hesitate to take it on a long ride.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Greasyjonny on July 19, 2014, 08:43:27 pm
Did you guys both go for the 270mm length?


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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: u-bolt on July 20, 2014, 05:31:30 am
yes, Hagon were keen to go to 290 or 300 which would be better from the ride point of view.

in my research into it I jacked up the bike to different simulated lengths, and I was worried about belt tension (loosening) as the shock gets longer, stance of bike is different also. So 270 was my compromise, a bit more travel but belt tension not too badly affected. You could go to 290 to get a better ride, just watch the belt tension.

I still scrape my pegs, not so often and I feel now OK about 'normal' cornering angles. Also ride is much improved over stock. There are a few who have fitted rear raisers, which are higher than the 270 shocks, so they must manage the belt tension OK.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Bull Winkle on July 20, 2014, 11:46:47 pm
Thinking about being the guinea pig and popping for the 290mm shocks 40kg springs. Where are the specs for total travel for comparison between stock and the hagon 290mm. I do like the reservoir  shocks looks, but wouldn't mind a softer rear end.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Oz Bolt on July 21, 2014, 04:01:23 am
Thinking about being the guinea pig and popping for the 290mm shocks 40kg springs. Where are the specs for total travel for comparison between stock and the hagon 290mm. I do like the reservoir  shocks looks, but wouldn't mind a softer rear end.
after a softer rear end huh :P
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: u-bolt on July 21, 2014, 05:42:33 am
Thinking about being the guinea pig and popping for the 290mm shocks 40kg springs. Where are the specs for total travel for comparison between stock and the hagon 290mm. I do like the reservoir  shocks looks, but wouldn't mind a softer rear end.

hey, that would be great Bull Winkle!!

I measured the stock shock as 255 length, I got some travel (stroke) figs from Hagon. I sent them one of my stock shocks for comparison.

here are some figs I still have :
stock shock : length 255mm, stroke 45mm, spring weight 35kg.
Hagon : length 270mm, stroke 54mm, spring weight 30kg (Steve) 35kg (u-bolt).
Hagon : length 290mm, stroke 70mm, spring weight TBS.

from memory 280mm had the same stroke as 290.
the Hagons have harder compression /rebound damping.

Why 40kg? are you very heavy? I'm on 35kg springs and weigh 196lbs, I'd say I'm near to the minimum weight for these springs ie they'd be good for quite a bit heavier than me.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: depravedone on September 24, 2014, 07:58:02 am

Are these really $199 for a pair or is that each?  If that's for a pair it seems like a no-brainer versus just using the Baron's 1" lift.  I see 280mm set in my future.





Thinking about being the guinea pig and popping for the 290mm shocks 40kg springs. Where are the specs for total travel for comparison between stock and the hagon 290mm. I do like the reservoir  shocks looks, but wouldn't mind a softer rear end.

hey, that would be great Bull Winkle!!

I measured the stock shock as 255 length, I got some travel (stroke) figs from Hagon. I sent them one of my stock shocks for comparison.

here are some figs I still have :
stock shock : length 255mm, stroke 45mm, spring weight 35kg.
Hagon : length 270mm, stroke 54mm, spring weight 30kg (Steve) 35kg (u-bolt).
Hagon : length 290mm, stroke 70mm, spring weight TBS.

from memory 280mm had the same stroke as 290.
the Hagons have harder compression /rebound damping.

Why 40kg? are you very heavy? I'm on 35kg springs and weigh 196lbs, I'd say I'm near to the minimum weight for these springs ie they'd be good for quite a bit heavier than me.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: u-bolt on September 24, 2014, 01:06:12 pm
I believe $199 is the cost of a pair.

~£150 in the UK inc post.


Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on December 26, 2014, 07:37:49 pm
Another old post on shocks. But is there any new thoughts on the Hagons.
Tried looking on the Hagon website but I couldn't find the info i wanted. Anyone know the shortest length of the 2810s?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Redness on April 04, 2015, 05:19:38 pm
Just installed 23kg on my bike today, and only took a short 20 mile or so ride and have to say I'm pretty stoked. Have on middle preload setting and on a pretty rough concrete road no b/o. Feels way better than stock and increased height helps too, as you'll said before. They were same length as you guys but only lighter and progressively wound springs on the 26kg and under. Cost was $219 now also. Posted pic in my gallery but I'm a newb so don't know how to move it here yet and haven't started re-sizing. 😜
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Redness on April 04, 2015, 05:21:53 pm
Forgot to say in previous post I'm 5'9 175lbs
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: HowlingBlueRat on June 17, 2015, 01:56:01 pm
Redness you upgraded the shocks on a regular Bolt rather than an R-spec, correct?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on August 08, 2015, 10:59:04 pm
I just installed the hagon shocks on my bolt. I went with the 290mm length and as mentioned before it's borderline to long and messes with belt tension I cycled the suspension through its travel and adjusted the belt to match then installed the new shocks

It rides so much nicer now handles great. It fits me better sitting at a stop. I went with the 26kg springs and I'm 170 and 6'3 so I enjoy the added height and softer ride.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on August 09, 2015, 08:51:11 pm
I just installed the hagon shocks on my bolt. I went with the 290mm length and as mentioned before it's borderline to long and messes with belt tension I cycled the suspension through its travel and adjusted the belt to match then installed the new shocks

It rides so much nicer now handles great. It fits me better sitting at a stop. I went with the 26kg springs and I'm 170 and 6'3 so I enjoy the added height and softer ride.

Keep us updated on how it's working out for you. If 290 works that would be a whole lot better.

Are you enjoying that added cornering clearance?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on August 15, 2015, 03:53:34 pm
So far it's working great  the bike handles significantly better and steering response has improved. Not scraping pegs as much is nice too. Be sure to take very good measurements of your belt tension before ordering them but they do fit and work for me.  The 26kg is about right. It's a little softer than stock but I haven't been able to bottom it with just myself. With a passenger I did but I was trying to test the limits.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on August 16, 2015, 02:50:53 pm
So far it's working great  the bike handles significantly better and steering response has improved. Not scraping pegs as much is nice too. Be sure to take very good measurements of your belt tension before ordering them but they do fit and work for me.  The 26kg is about right. It's a little softer than stock but I haven't been able to bottom it with just myself. With a passenger I did but I was trying to test the limits.

Now we just need to see some pics! Thanks for the update.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freddyknuckles on September 02, 2015, 03:22:21 pm
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: DoberMan on September 02, 2015, 04:55:21 pm
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?

The safest Hagon shock length would be 270mm. OEM is 255mm. The longer the shock the slacker the belt so you need to tighten it and if you do that and introduce longer shock travel the belt will be too tight when the suspension compresses.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freddyknuckles on September 02, 2015, 06:47:55 pm
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?

The safest Hagon shock length would be 270mm. OEM is 255mm. The longer the shock the slacker the belt so you need to tighten it and if you do that and introduce longer shock travel the belt will be too tight when the suspension compresses.
OK, thanks. So that being the case, I am still wondering about doing the lowering brackets with the Hagon shocks. 270mm if that's the longest possible. Any negative side effects?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: DoberMan on September 02, 2015, 07:19:55 pm
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?

The safest Hagon shock length would be 270mm. OEM is 255mm. The longer the shock the slacker the belt so you need to tighten it and if you do that and introduce longer shock travel the belt will be too tight when the suspension compresses.
OK, thanks. So that being the case, I am still wondering about doing the lowering brackets with the Hagon shocks. 270mm if that's the longest possible. Any negative side effects?

You are only going to get 10mm extra travel in the 270mm shock compared to the OEM so fitting lowering links should not have any clearance issues. There is a big gap between fender and tyre. (Tire!)

The only negative of lowering brackets would be scraping your pegs more easily.

Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on September 03, 2015, 12:28:45 am
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?

I say screw the naysayers, and give it a whirl.
This winter I'm gonna pull my shocks off and do some serious measuring and see how it would fit. I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of building my own lowering bracket, around 3/4" or 1" and then run the 290s or 300s even.
I have a set of fork extensions to run also. Gonna need to look it over pretty hard first but I think it's do able.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: DoberMan on September 03, 2015, 04:49:38 am


I say screw the naysayers, and give it a whirl.
This winter I'm gonna pull my shocks off and do some serious measuring and see how it would fit. I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of building my own lowering bracket, around 3/4" or 1" and then run the 290s or 300s even.
I have a set of fork extensions to run also. Gonna need to look it over pretty hard first but I think it's do able.

I can save you a whole heap of trouble, I've already been down that road.

Here are the figures from Hagon:

my orig XV shock sent to Hagon
len 255mm
stroke 45mm
spring weight, mostly linear 35kg
 
shock ordered from Hagon
len 270mm
stroke 54mm
spring weight 35kg (but with more damping than orig)
 
longer Hagon shocks
len 280mm
stroke 54mm
 
len 290mm
stroke 70mm
 
len 300mm
stroke 80mm

You can fit whatever length spring you want, the problem is with the belt tension. Longer the shock= slacker belt, it will slip on the pulley. When the spring compresses the belt tightens putting stress on bearings and gearbox.

The only solution is to fit a belt tensioner like the ones on the Buells. Unless you can fabricate your own or modify one and find a way to mount it to the frame no one currently makes one for the Bolt.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on September 03, 2015, 08:32:24 am
Doberman I get what your saying and I do appreciate it. I'm still gonna get mine on a lift and measure belt tension at different ride heights.
If the 270 is safe then in theory shouldn't the 280 be safe because it has the same amount of travel its just 10mm taller.
Freeride707 seems to think his 290s are working out fine. Keep us updated. Maybe it's just a matter of keeping a close eye on the belt tension and finding the sweet spot.

I'm still gonna do some looking into this for myself.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freddyknuckles on September 03, 2015, 09:11:48 am
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?

The safest Hagon shock length would be 270mm. OEM is 255mm. The longer the shock the slacker the belt so you need to tighten it and if you do that and introduce longer shock travel the belt will be too tight when the suspension compresses.
I am not an engineer so maybe I am missing something here.
A 290mm shock is 35mm longer or 1.378 inches. The lowering links drop the ride by 1.4 inches. That is a virtual wash in terms of ride height. Almost stock. Meaning almost zero increase in slack on the belt. The lowering links seem to take the ride height out of the equation.
That just leaves the travel to consider. A 25mm increase (almsot an inch), which is significant.
As RudeBoltin said, maybe it's a matter of finding the sweet spot.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on September 03, 2015, 02:34:27 pm
So has anybody tried a Low and Mean lowering kit in combination with a longer Hagon shock?
The lowering bracket lowers the bike 1.4" so by my calculations a 290mm shock would keep the ride at approximately stock height but with the advantage of a better dampened shock with more travel.
This is something I would be very interested in. It would also fit into my plan to remove the rear fender since the brackets include mounting points for the turn signals.
Thoughts?

The safest Hagon shock length would be 270mm. OEM is 255mm. The longer the shock the slacker the belt so you need to tighten it and if you do that and introduce longer shock travel the belt will be too tight when the suspension compresses.
I am not an engineer so maybe I am missing something here.
A 290mm shock is 35mm longer or 1.378 inches. The lowering links drop the ride by 1.4 inches. That is a virtual wash in terms of ride height. Almost stock. Meaning almost zero increase in slack on the belt. The lowering links seem to take the ride height out of the equation.
That just leaves the travel to consider. A 25mm increase (almsot an inch), which is significant.
As RudeBoltin said, maybe it's a matter of finding the sweet spot.

Any particular reason why you'd want to do this? Limited ground clearance sucks when you're trying to ride it hard in the corners. The added height in the rear does wonders in this area.

IMO the Bolt is too sporty. The stock height won't let this bike really shine.

Maybe you should do the shocks first, and if you don't like it, then do the lowering kit.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freddyknuckles on September 03, 2015, 03:05:20 pm

Any particular reason why you'd want to do this? Limited ground clearance sucks when you're trying to ride it hard in the corners. The added height in the rear does wonders in this area.

IMO the Bolt is too sporty. The stock height won't let this bike really shine.

Maybe you should do the shocks first, and if you don't like it, then do the lowering kit.
Well I have short legs and I am very happy with the way the bike fits me right now. I would like the benefits of a better shock and more travel without increasing the height at all.
I agree that the biggest fault with this bike is it's limited ground clearance however I am not a particularly aggressive rider so it's not really a hindrance for me. I can deal with the occasional scrape.
I figured this might be a way for me to have my cake and eat it too.
Also the Low and Mean lowering kit gives me an option to relocate my turn signals as my mods will eventually be to replace my stock fender with a hugger.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on September 10, 2015, 01:16:49 am
I can definitely say that the 290mm work. The reason they work is the compressed length of the shock is still longer than the compressed stock shock length. So when you change the shocks out you set belt tension to just about all the way tight at compressed length then install shocks. The belt still should be in spec for tension at extended length. I have tested this and it worked very well. Have about 1000miles on em already and I ride my bike hard... Cycled suspension all the way through by rolling off a curb and bottoming the suspension. No belt slipping or binding. Now it is very important to keep constantly checking belt tension regardless of shocks.

As for the lowering kit and longer shocks. You really need to look at the compressed length of shock and make sure the tire doesn't contact the fender. I'm running a tall 180 rear tire and it contacts fender  mount bolts now with the softer shocks but grinding the bolts down fixed that.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freddyknuckles on September 10, 2015, 08:08:38 am
That's good to know.
As far as the tire contacting the fender, my plan for a custom, swingarm mounted fender would make rubbing a non issue.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on September 10, 2015, 08:09:46 am
I can definitely say that the 290mm work. The reason they work is the compressed length of the shock is still longer than the compressed stock shock length. So when you change the shocks out you set belt tension to just about all the way tight at compressed length then install shocks. The belt still should be in spec for tension at extended length. I have tested this and it worked very well. Have about 1000miles on em already and I ride my bike hard... Cycled suspension all the way through by rolling off a curb and bottoming the suspension. No belt slipping or binding. Now it is very important to keep constantly checking belt tension regardless of shocks.

As for the lowering kit and longer shocks. You really need to look at the compressed length of shock and make sure the tire doesn't contact the fender. I'm running a tall 180 rear tire and it contacts fender  mount bolts now with the softer shocks but grinding the bolts down fixed that.

Thanks Freeride for the follow up. What brand and what is the whole size of the rear tire?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on September 10, 2015, 12:33:43 pm
The rear tire is a Pirelli Night dragon 180/65r16 pretty good tire gotten 5k out of it so far with minimal wear and lots of burnouts.

Also the bike really carves now when you hit the twisties I put some kuryakyn kinetic footpegs and that added to the ground clearance even though I gained leg room. It's pretty hard to actually drag a peg now. Before I was dragging a peg every corner now I actually have to try to and still can't.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Connex on September 11, 2015, 12:26:05 pm
Guess I'm buying some 290s next week! :) Could you post a couple photos of your bike, Freeride?

- Connex
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on September 11, 2015, 05:46:47 pm
Yea at first hagon was keen on selling me 270 but they had been doing testing on a bolt they had access too and they were going to offer 300mm but that is def too much. So I went with the 290. Here is the only pic I have of them on my bike not a very good one. You can see a gap between top of rear tire and fender if you look at the bike at the right angle.
(http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh16/jmacyam256/Mobile%20Uploads/image_16.jpg) (http://s252.photobucket.com/user/jmacyam256/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_16.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: johnny5gti on September 18, 2015, 03:03:41 pm
wow..great info. I been looking to buy a bolt but im a pretty big guy (300lb) and wanted to look into upgrading the rear shocks. Looks like I could use the Nitro 290s for the rears.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: DoberMan on September 18, 2015, 03:34:14 pm
Looks like I could use the Nitro 290s for the rears.

The Nitros are a completely different shock than those shown above and a lot more expensive . You will also need to check if they will fit as the springs are wider than the OEM or the standard Hagons.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on September 21, 2015, 02:59:13 pm
I looked into the nitros they said they don't think they will work and I think 300mm was the smallest they make.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: johnny5gti on September 25, 2015, 07:03:23 pm
Thanks Dober and Freeride for the info. I really wanted the dampening adjust ability. Might have to get the Hagon 2810 adjustable shocks
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: freeride707 on September 28, 2015, 12:09:03 am
Although there is no real adjustability on the hagon road shocks they are a significant upgrade in my opinion especially for around $200

The bolt will never be a comfortable bike for me imo it's meant to be sporty and compact lightweight bike. These shocks definitely improve the handling and softens up the ride but still with less than 3" of rear travel it can only be so good. I don't use my bolt for long trips or touring so it's perfect for my around town riding and back roads and commuting. I leave the trips for the roadstar.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on October 21, 2015, 07:46:22 pm
why doesnt someone just bite the bullet and stretch their swingarm an inch or two, fit longer shocks, then let me know how it works out? haha

or better yet, make some sort of bolt on monoshock kit for me to buy. haha
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on October 22, 2015, 12:14:10 am
JPD Customs did amono shock dirt tracker and Chappell Customs did a Bobber style with mono shock. Then there is Low and Mean, they've done an air ride system.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on October 22, 2015, 12:31:33 am
Are any of those available in kits though?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on October 22, 2015, 08:34:04 am
(http://www.sherv.net/cm/emoticons/kids/baby-feeding-smiley-emoticon.gif) (http://www.sherv.net/)
JPD Customs used a shock setup from Penske, never really seen much about its availability, but who knows. Might be worth a little time to check into it. Believe they cut off a bunch of the rear chassis.
Chappell was making there setup available for sale, but you have to cut the back half of the frame off to use it.
Low and Mean used Platinum Air Ride system. Seems like it was $1600 or so.
Not sure about the availability of any of these today. Didn't like the price of the air ride, its cool though, check it out on you tube. The other two cut the frame and I'm not ready to do that, plus I need to be able to ride two up.
Guess your gonna have to do some leg work cause that's all I know for now.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: fredstar on October 26, 2015, 11:56:46 am
Hello,
I've just recevied my rear shocks from Hagon UK (270mm lenght), looks Amazing for the price! I add a special request asking for fully blacked-out and recevied it at home in Italy as asked for and only 3 days after without extra $.
Great supplier so far!
I'm now waiting for the motorlift I've ordered to install the shocks and will be also usefull for winter storage and service.
I guess it's quite straight forward to install but before, and wanted to ask you guys if there's any special tricks to know?
Thanks!
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: DoberMan on October 26, 2015, 02:38:49 pm
You will need a special Torx security bit T40 to remove the top shock mount bolt.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: strummer on October 26, 2015, 04:45:26 pm
Hello Fred,
Once you have installed them would you let me know how it worked out for you?
I would like to know if actually there is any difference between the stock and the Hagon shocks before buying them myself.
1000 grazie...
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on October 27, 2015, 01:56:15 pm
You do not need a motor lift. Just do one side at a time.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: fredstar on October 28, 2015, 04:15:44 am
Should be Tricky without a motorlift, stock shocks are compressed by the weight of the bike and also new ones are longer. I can't see how to do the change properly without a motorlift.
Anyway, to me, such a tool is not really expensive and really usefull for many other things, and for the next mod I'll do, install the fork boots.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: General_Apathy on October 28, 2015, 05:45:37 am
Hello,
I've just recevied my rear shocks from Hagon UK (270mm lenght), looks Amazing for the price! I add a special request asking for fully blacked-out and recevied it at home in Italy as asked for and only 3 days after without extra $.
Great supplier so far!
I'm now waiting for the motorlift I've ordered to install the shocks and will be also usefull for winter storage and service.
I guess it's quite straight forward to install but before, and wanted to ask you guys if there's any special tricks to know?
Thanks!

Hey Fredstar. Can you post up some detail pictures of the blacked out shocks please?
:)
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Super Sneaky Steve on October 29, 2015, 08:59:40 am
Should be Tricky without a motorlift, stock shocks are compressed by the weight of the bike and also new ones are longer. I can't see how to do the change properly without a motorlift.
Anyway, to me, such a tool is not really expensive and really usefull for many other things, and for the next mod I'll do, install the fork boots.

It's not tricky, at all. There is no reason to use a motorlift.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: fredstar on October 30, 2015, 01:22:59 am
Just upload a picture of the blacked-out version: https://www.yamahastarbolt.com/gallery/yamaha-star-bolt-mods/hagon-shocks/3365
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: General_Apathy on October 30, 2015, 05:00:58 am
Just upload a picture of the blacked-out version: https://www.yamahastarbolt.com/gallery/yamaha-star-bolt-mods/hagon-shocks/3365

They look sweet, thanks for uploading, So they don't even have the Hagon label on?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: fredstar on October 30, 2015, 01:41:26 pm
no logo on it, when looking close, I can see a light "HAGON" on the springs.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: General_Apathy on October 30, 2015, 05:15:02 pm
no logo on it, when looking close, I can see a light "HAGON" on the springs.

Classy :) Look forward to seeing them on the bike and hearing what you think after the first ride.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on October 30, 2015, 08:24:20 pm
they look really really good

hoping i can get mine like that
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: fredstar on November 02, 2015, 11:31:25 am
Shocks are now on the bike, love the blacked-out look!
I had a nice ride on it last sunday, enough to have an good idea of the result.
Wow, vast improvement, more comfortable probably because of the slightly increased travel, Hagon claims 10mm more travel and better Handling thanks to the increased ride hight.
I'm very happy with those shocks. In my opinion, at this price (compared to Yamaha optionals) it's a real bargain.
As Ivan's re-flash, Worth every penny!
One of the best moddification for the bolt if you have twisty backroads and roundabouts like I have. Your pegs will thank you!
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: General_Apathy on November 02, 2015, 01:53:34 pm
Shocks are now on the bike, love the blacked-out look!
I had a nice ride on it last sunday, enough to have an good idea of the result.
Wow, vast improvement, more comfortable probably because of the slightly increased travel, Hagon claims 10mm more travel and better Handling thanks to the increased ride hight.
I'm very happy with those shocks. In my opinion, at this price (compared to Yamaha optionals) it's a real bargain.
As Ivan's re-flash, Worth every penny!
One of the best moddification for the bolt if you have twisty backroads and roundabouts like I have. Your pegs will thank you!

Thats good to hear. I have seen the pictures as well and they look great :)
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: General_Apathy on March 05, 2016, 04:54:58 pm
Hey Fredstar,  any chance off  an update on performance?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: strummer on March 07, 2016, 03:14:26 pm
Hey Fredstar,  any chance off  an update on performance?

I was actually looking forward to hear something too ;)
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: JimmyJones on April 11, 2016, 11:15:25 am
Everyone still enjoying their Hagons?  Think I'm gonna have to get me a set, so much more affordable then the Ohlins.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Connex on February 22, 2017, 01:52:21 pm
I felt it was important to update this thread with my findings, so please forgive the necro post. Last week I decided to take the plunge and purchased 290mm Hagon shocks for my R-spec. They arrived much sooner than I had anticipated, so I was able to get them installed before the start of the weekend. Let me tell you - they're solid. I ride my bike pretty damn hard and have become used to scraping peg on most corners. I only scraped once over the entire three day weekend after installing these shocks! I never thought I'd be able to keep up with my friends on the backroads, but these shocks have completely transformed this bike. As freeride707 said, pay attention to the belt tension, but so far I haven't ran into any issues after the initial adjustment. I highly recommend them to everyone. Let me know if you have any questions  8)

- Ben
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on February 22, 2017, 05:31:55 pm
did you ask them to black them out for you?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Connex on February 22, 2017, 05:35:37 pm
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on February 22, 2017, 08:52:01 pm
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben

i dont mean the spring. im referring to the adjustment piece underneath that(dont know what the part is called). i thought they were always gray on hagons
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on February 23, 2017, 03:11:21 am
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben

i dont mean the spring. im referring to the adjustment piece underneath that(dont know what the part is called). i thought they were always gray on hagons
That's just a sticker that pulls off.


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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on February 23, 2017, 01:21:10 pm
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben

i dont mean the spring. im referring to the adjustment piece underneath that(dont know what the part is called). i thought they were always gray on hagons
That's just a sticker that pulls off.


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the sticker is chrome with blue lettering. the piece the sticker goes on is usually gray.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on February 23, 2017, 06:40:00 pm
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben

i dont mean the spring. im referring to the adjustment piece underneath that(dont know what the part is called). i thought they were always gray on hagons
That's just a sticker that pulls off.


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the sticker is chrome with blue lettering. the piece the sticker goes on is usually gray.

Shit your right, I didn't notice it on mine. I just received mine! Think I will have to spray the grey part black!
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on February 23, 2017, 07:48:01 pm
Quote from: B1-66er link=topic=3331.msg176434#msg176434 5date=1487874070
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben

i dont mean the spring. im referring to the adjustment piece underneath that(dont know what the part is called). i thought they were always gray on hagons
That's just a sticker that pulls off.


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the sticker is chrome with blue lettering. the piece the sticker goes on is usually gray.

Shit your right, I didn't notice it on mine. I just received mine! Think I will have to spray the grey part black!

That's what I'm trying to avoid
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Connex on March 01, 2017, 02:36:28 pm
Quote from: B1-66er link=topic=3331.msg176434#msg176434 5date=1487874070
did you ask them to black them out for you?

I did. Hagon offers their shocks in chrome and black

- Ben

i dont mean the spring. im referring to the adjustment piece underneath that(dont know what the part is called). i thought they were always gray on hagons
That's just a sticker that pulls off.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

the sticker is chrome with blue lettering. the piece the sticker goes on is usually gray.

Shit your right, I didn't notice it on mine. I just received mine! Think I will have to spray the grey part black!

That's what I'm trying to avoid

Hagon blacked them out for me. No additional charge. Just make sure you let them know when you make the order

- Ben
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on March 01, 2017, 06:14:03 pm
Done and done. Ordered day before yesterday.  Should be here Friday.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on March 06, 2017, 02:51:48 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Tyler1st on March 07, 2017, 02:47:48 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on March 07, 2017, 04:15:04 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Tyler1st on March 07, 2017, 04:17:16 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.

Perfect,

Just making sure there wasn't any sneaky little aggravations.

-T


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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Tyler1st on March 08, 2017, 03:12:03 pm
Just Called and got the 290mm and loaded at 25kg.

Any updates on the 290mm length and belt tension??

I was about to go for the 280mm and find the happy mid ground from the thread but I do want to gain a solid 1" of height out of this as well the handling and performance.

Thanks guys!
-T
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Pir8 on March 10, 2017, 07:19:15 am
Isn't it a t40s? The tamper proof version?

从我的手机。

Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: lunkhead on March 10, 2017, 11:12:54 am
My Hagons from ebay came with a Torx socket.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Connex on March 10, 2017, 01:25:03 pm
Just Called and got the 290mm and loaded at 25kg.

Any updates on the 290mm length and belt tension??

I was about to go for the 280mm and find the happy mid ground from the thread but I do want to gain a solid 1" of height out of this as well the handling and performance.

Thanks guys!
-T

I haven't ran into any issues with my 290s. Love em! You're in for a real treat with your Cspec. I'm looking into purchasing the sportier pegs/bracket for my bike. The Hagon shocks already made a huge difference in lean angle, but I'm curious just how much better they'll be on a bike with the rearsets. Let us know how they work for you once you get them installed
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Jgama on March 10, 2017, 03:05:43 pm
Yes the tamper proof one. Anyone going to the tool store needs to know this. The regular one will not work. I'm only on 280 and got an inch easy. The one thing i did not like was the height it added.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on March 10, 2017, 05:12:29 pm
Yes the tamper proof one. Anyone going to the tool store needs to know this. The regular one will not work. I'm only on 280 and got an inch easy. The one thing i did not like was the height it added.

Can't have your cake & eat it. Extra hight equals extra comfort. No easy way around it.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Jgama on March 12, 2017, 04:57:27 am
With ohlins u can, but it's gonna cost you, it's expensive cake


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Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on March 12, 2017, 04:26:36 pm
With ohlins u can, but it's gonna cost you, it's expensive cake


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Yeah I know I looked in to em before purchasing the Hagon's. They do look neat. From what I've read though, they aren't that much better, considering they cost an extra 1k. It's a lot of money for a small improvement. 


The horse has Bolt'ed
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Jgama on March 15, 2017, 12:14:41 am
Extra 1k??? Sscustoms has them
For $939.  I don't know if they are $700 better lol. If I could sell my hagons to offset the cost I would do it. The hagons are not a huge upgrade over stock, I like them, just being real.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on March 15, 2017, 05:04:18 am
Extra 1k??? Sscustoms has them
For $939.  I don't know if they are $700 better lol. If I could sell my hagons to offset the cost I would do it. The hagons are not a huge upgrade over stock, I like them, just being real.
Fair enough. Was going off pricing in Australia. Easily an extra 1k here. If money wasn't an issue I would've splurged.


The horse has Bolt'ed
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Jgama on March 15, 2017, 02:54:45 pm
Oh damn! One of the members has put sportster shorty shocks on his and loves them.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Tyler1st on March 22, 2017, 01:43:03 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.

So easy, until I tightend a little to far and ripped the Torx head off the bolt....

PAIN IN THE ASS mistake right here.

-T
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: B1-66er on March 22, 2017, 06:01:31 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.

So easy, until I tightend a little to far and ripped the Torx head off the bolt....

PAIN IN THE ASS mistake right here.

-T

ouch
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on March 22, 2017, 08:47:06 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.

So easy, until I tightend a little to far and ripped the Torx head off the bolt....

PAIN IN THE ASS mistake right here.

-T
Sorry to hear mate. I highly recommend getting a torque wrench & following service manual guidelines for tightening crucial bolts on a bolt.

I checked through the service manual & attached diagram with required details. 

Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Tyler1st on March 22, 2017, 08:59:27 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.

So easy, until I tightend a little to far and ripped the Torx head off the bolt....

PAIN IN THE ASS mistake right here.

-T
Sorry to hear mate. I highly recommend getting a torque wrench & following service manual guidelines for tightening crucial bolts on a bolt.

I checked through the service manual & attached diagram with required details.

Oh you better believe I went straight to the Search and found the Bolt and Torque specs. Funnily enough the thread left inside was so loose I spun it out with my finger tip. Didn't even need to drill it out!

All fixed and good to go. Shocks are on and feeling great, now to chopp up my rear fender and relocate my Indicators for a second time...

Photo:
https://www.yamahastarbolt.com/gallery/yamaha-star-bolt-mods/spring-is-around-the-corner-i-hope/7202

-T
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: ImMrEd on March 22, 2017, 09:03:58 pm
Got em put on. Way better than stock

B1 and Team,

What is required from me other than the correct torx bit (which is T40?) , and a Simple Lift to get the bike off the ground?
I have read through the thread and would love if someone whom has done this install to share a simple outline of their process. Much appreciated!

-T

Just a 17mm socket. I loosened bolts. Then hack bike up just enough to take weight off of shocks. Took bolts off. Took shocks off. Jacked up a little more to make up for extra shock length. Slid new shocks on. Put bolts back on. Let bike down from jack. Tightened bolts.  Super easy.

So easy, until I tightend a little to far and ripped the Torx head off the bolt....

PAIN IN THE ASS mistake right here.

-T
Sorry to hear mate. I highly recommend getting a torque wrench & following service manual guidelines for tightening crucial bolts on a bolt.

I checked through the service manual & attached diagram with required details.

Oh you better believe I went straight to the Search and found the Bolt and Torque specs. Funnily enough the thread left inside was so loose I spun it out with my finger tip. Didn't even need to drill it out!

All fixed and good to go. Shocks are on and feeling great, now to chopp up my rear fender and relocate my Indicators for a second time...

Photo:
https://www.yamahastarbolt.com/gallery/yamaha-star-bolt-mods/spring-is-around-the-corner-i-hope/7202

-T
Good stuff mate. So the ride, big improvement? Noticeable? I'd get rid of the sticker.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Hik on September 13, 2017, 10:11:14 am
As I said at my presentation post, I had to thank you all for the info I got here.

I bought a pair of Hagon Nitro 290mm. I had my doubts but with some geometrical analysis by myself (over a picture and analyzing some other people had done, and the words of others fellas here about 290mm), I decided that well worth to give a try. I was doubting about spending on Nitros, or going cheaper with the Road version... finally I spent the money and after a month and almost 600miles, I had no problems with the belt.

The rides improved a lot. How much, I dont know, and sadly had no reference from other shocks or bikes as I am newbie with barely no experience with real bikes (I had a 50cc bike twenty years ago). Yes, I can say is smother and more agile and responsive. My opinion is 290mm over the stock length give you this improvement in responsiveness, and make the bike feel more like a naked than like a cruiser (moves the center of gravity to the front and up... you drive less with the butt, an more with the upperbody) but its something subtle and its difficult to explain it, moreover in English....

Although length issue seems ok, I had some problem with geometrical interference... let's say the spring scratched the belt sprocket. Well, not always, or not at first... maybe began just with heavy corners with big torque load when I opened throttle....  After noticing that, I had to put spacers in the lower screw joint and get repaired the sprocket. It's a matter of diameter... Nitro are wider than stock, and I think I read something here... but didn't realized after mounting.

(https://pjtpsg.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4m2L_QzmgZIQR3oCnPErHhKvnE7vJSAyLYkwREpGRlfZQhcLnPucbKn6vQxS4FF0YQeL3hM0mNqWvSbn2VwyMKHIoysdrpNXGA6nL6ynmtSFKyho-72nj913Z7FdqI5x__BT1U3BXH3fESjnDXKWjgYoM1Ny4a1BpZSI80TWEJplCvAB0s6O4t1imFVqM5YLZ9jIxhPDpgjAAb73-BL23WCA?width=684&height=1024&cropmode=none)

This pic is previous to mounting the spacers, but makes the work to show the Hagon. If somebody wants a detail about the spacers, feel free to ask me.

(Edited)

(https://ldpfyg.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y4mtxgXkuJqJpjVSJEhe1u8aJnsWU9uWVFVhYDjvGSUEqrnQsUeMRinR40Vv2o7zXxGfMeSKCWBckqa7vxoF03RhgiKDxO5SzHB_eb7LX-hJ0-sWKKbWj2Yf_ylvvhusjsLiu2ohNXHi5yV2VcCENmWMrQE6EVFH0vyATK3xzTZ7cY-_LSB5IpVUOFuPj8M87Olduqhv1XllJmR0eA0oBF_9Q?width=660&height=660&cropmode=none)

I add the spacers picture I've just taken at the garage. Sorry the poor light and all the dirt!

The spacer is that thick washer at the opposite side of the shock from the nut.

Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Elliott on November 28, 2017, 02:30:51 pm
Do you guys have a link to the Hagon product? I don't see it listed on their (seriously outdated) website.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: jpag on November 28, 2017, 03:51:22 pm
I have been looking into purchasing these
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: di3zelherbert on December 01, 2017, 04:05:34 pm
Do you guys have a link to the Hagon product? I don't see it listed on their (seriously outdated) website.

I think you have to call them, I've emailed them a month ago and just last week, still met with no response.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: SLCBolt on December 02, 2017, 03:45:32 am
Do you guys have a link to the Hagon product? I don't see it listed on their (seriously outdated) website.

http://www.hagonshocksusa.com/HagShocks.htm

Pretty sure everyone has been getting the Hagon Road Shock from this page. You have to call them and then they ask you questions about your weight, riding two up, and what kind of riding you do. Then they build the shock to meet those specifications.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: lunkhead on December 02, 2017, 11:27:07 am
I gave up and got mine from ebay for $278 total. They're all black, come with tools and choice of spring rate. The seller has a 100% rating.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Elliott on December 03, 2017, 10:48:49 pm
Ideally I'd like to replace the leaking shock with the original equipment (reservoir style) instead of the single shock style like the Hagon's. No luck in finding an OEM replacement though.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: di3zelherbert on February 12, 2018, 11:47:19 am
Just an FYI anyone still thinking about getting Hagons, their USA location is closed and you have to order directly from Hagon UK now. Only eBay seller i could find didn't have them at lengths longer than stock. Wish they did, because 55 GBP for shipping (plus the UPS brokerage) hurts.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Dick Turpin on May 31, 2018, 03:01:10 pm
I have some info for anyone considering getting Hagons for their Bolt. Hagons now do a specific set of shocks for the Bolt, this is the technical info I got back from them by email after I phoned them with my inquiry. Makes interesting reading. I will be ordering my pair tomorrow:

Hi,
   
The XV950 Bolt is a model we get asked about a lot and most people want to go a bit longer because they are worried about grounding out and  lifting the rear wheel. We therefore have made a slightly longer than stock shock, plus 25mm at 280mm eye to  eye, but with 20mm of additional stroke extra compared to  our regular 280mm shock. Ride is better both from both a spring rate and damping perspective but purely the  design of the machine means it will never ride as plush as a  typical twin shock machine.
   
The first issue is this… the standard shock absorber is about 255mm eye  to eye and only has about 45mm of up and down travel. This  is half a typical twin shock machines travel. If you remove the shocks and lift the swing arm upwards, when the shock mounts reach  205mm apart swing arm to frame contact is made. This means to increase the amount of stroke or travel of the shock which will benefit  ride quality, the only option is to go for a longer shock  with the same compressed length as the standard shock to  avoid contact with the wheel in its highest position. (Or fully bottomed out).
   
This brings us to the next problem. The greater the distance between the gearbox sprocket (and belt pulley) and swing arm  pivot the more chain or belt tension will be affected as the  swing arm moves through its travel.
As shock length is increased, the swing arm drops and effectively the rear  sprocket moves closer to the gearbox sprocket, reducing the  belt tension rapidly. This means you have a slack belt at full drop, or on the side stand and a bow  string tight belt at full compression or bottomed out. This is why we have not exceeded the 280mm. Any longer would really require some  sort of belt tensioning system installed. We personally feel with a 290mm belt tension is too slack and a tooth jumping belt  cannot be ruled out!
   
Because of the above info we have introduced a damper specifically for the XV950 at a  280mm eye to eye length which we feel is the optimum length  without installing a tensioner kit. This damper has a compressed length of 212mm so nearly a full 70mm of stroke  or travel which is a significant improvement over stock. The Bolt will always have a compromised ride by design, but we believe this is the  best compromise!
   
All black damper and spring are £166.25 EX VAT (£199.50 inclusive U.K.) and  shipping is free within U.K Mainland.

Regards
Hagon Sales Team
IG6 3JH
Tel:+44 (0)208 502 6222
Fax: 0208 502 6274
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: scrid2000 on June 01, 2018, 02:09:43 pm
I have some info for anyone considering getting Hagons for their Bolt. Hagons now do a specific set of shocks for the Bolt, this is the technical info I got back from them by email after I phoned them with my inquiry. Makes interesting reading. I will be ordering my pair tomorrow:
...

Are those pictures with the Hagens shocks installed? Definitely raises the rear fender higher than the stock shocks if so.

Hopefully I won't take this thread too far off topic, but what's going on with the passenger pegs and the luggage rack?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Dick Turpin on June 01, 2018, 03:27:54 pm
The pictures were attached to the email I got back from Hagons, so I presume they show their shocks added to the Bolt they've been trying them on. They seemed quite keen to talk on the phone, so I would address any further questions to them. I have ordered my pair so await delivery. Can't wait to find out how different those familiar road bumps feel!
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: flatrack on June 02, 2018, 01:30:52 pm
I have some info for anyone considering getting Hagons for their Bolt. Hagons now do a specific set of shocks for the Bolt, this is the technical info I got back from them by email after I phoned them with my inquiry. Makes interesting reading. I will be ordering my pair tomorrow

Very interested to hear what you think of them. Which spring weight did you go with? Thanks!
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: Dick Turpin on June 02, 2018, 02:00:09 pm
Hi flatrack,

I filled in their questionnaire on my weight, my wife's weight, and what percentage we spend doing two up riding (about 25%), then ordered a completely blacked out set of shocks. They have not confirmed what spring weight they arrived at yet, but I will report back. Honestly, there are some really bad bumps on my commute that I have either leaned to avoid, or brace myself for, and these are the ones that I hope the Hagons really transform.

Also if their springs raise the bike up by about an inch, I would like a stand expansion with about a half inch of thickness, like Hepco and Becker do for some bikes, but no one does for the Bolt. Might have to make my own, so that not only will the bike not sink into soft tarmac, but will still lean at the right angle when left parked.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: thong on June 03, 2018, 03:31:02 pm
I also have these 280mm shocks  (30kg springs), as stated I believe they are the best compromise.
In the uk, the roads are in a terrible state of repair (plus speed bumps everywhere).
With the original shocks the bike is unrideable in the uk (in my opinion).
To set the belt tension, slip the original shocks back on and adjust to specs.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: asarms87 on January 29, 2020, 09:37:40 pm
I just received a pair of Hagon shocks, have not put them on yet but had to post to share how happy I am with Hagon.

Sales was extremely helpful and fast to respond considering 8 hour time difference. I placed my order Monday 8am PST and Wednesday evening the shocks were on my front porch when I get home. In Seattle. Shipping was $71 USD but it was all part of the budget of the shocks for me. Total cost shipped was about $300 USD.

Prices are still the same as previous post and there is a free black cam option to go with the black springs. They look great! Their initial response to me is attached.

I will update once I get them onto the bike, but I was so impressed by the shipping and experience with their team I had to share.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: lunkhead on January 30, 2020, 04:25:23 pm
The pair I gave to a friend to sell are on ebay. Also some black OEM mirrors.
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on January 30, 2020, 11:45:04 pm
The pair I gave to a friend to sell are on ebay. Also some black OEM mirrors.
There's like 14 pages of crap to wade through. Any chance for a link?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: lunkhead on January 31, 2020, 12:10:09 am
What keywords you using? They're the only Hagons for a Bolt on there. If searching outside the US, it might not come up.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/HAGON-SHOCKS-FOR-XV950-BOLT-R-SPEC-C-SPEC-SCR950/223872484263?
Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: RudeBoltin on January 31, 2020, 07:23:46 am
Cool.
Used everything but "Hagon".

Do you remember what spring weight they are? Or what weight they were set up for?

Title: Re: Hagon Shocks USA
Post by: lunkhead on January 31, 2020, 09:13:16 am
I don't. They're the std that they come with for average weight. I didn't look for markings. They worked good with a 150 lb passenger and didn't need to be on 5th setting.