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Author Topic: Should I run it or wait  (Read 392 times)

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Offline Tboyd7

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Should I run it or wait
« on: June 02, 2020, 09:19:51 pm »
Kind of a noob question, so a few weeks ago I ordered a V&H naked vo2 intake, it had been lost in mail, j&p sending me a new, will take a few days/maybe week, I get my Ivan flashed ecu tomorrow, can I ride it even though it was flashed for intake and exhaust?
« Last Edit: June 03, 2020, 12:54:21 am by Tboyd7 »


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Offline Tboyd7

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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2020, 09:33:22 am »
 No one has an opinion?
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Offline Sdaniels

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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #2 on: June 03, 2020, 10:24:50 am »
Run it...I have no idea if it'll run like crap but I doubt it & you won't hurt anything in a 5 minute shake down run.
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Offline bedheadjulian

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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #3 on: June 03, 2020, 01:55:39 pm »
Yes, you can ride with Ivan's flash and stock set-up. Your bike will run rather rich, which may not give you such a great impression of the flash ( it'll be a bit "bogged-down" and not run as well as it should) but you won't hurt your engine in the short term. Running rich can build up hydrocarbon deposits on your piston head and in the exhaust but it takes quite a while to do so. Running lean is where you can run into trouble. A lean mix can cause overheating and damage your piston head and/or valve rings. So if you're dying to go for a ride just go ahead, but like I said, you might be disappointed with how the bike feels, but you won't hurt it by doing so.
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Offline Tboyd7

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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #4 on: June 03, 2020, 02:38:25 pm »
Run it...I have no idea if it'll run like crap but I doubt it & you won't hurt anything in a 5 minute shake down run.
.  Thank you I know was figuring the same thing
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Offline Tboyd7

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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #5 on: June 03, 2020, 02:41:09 pm »
Yes, you can ride with Ivan's flash and stock set-up. Your bike will run rather rich, which may not give you such a great impression of the flash ( it'll be a bit "bogged-down" and not run as well as it should) but you won't hurt your engine in the short term. Running rich can build up hydrocarbon deposits on your piston head and in the exhaust but it takes quite a while to do so. Running lean is where you can run into trouble. A lean mix can cause overheating and damage your piston head and/or valve rings. So if you're dying to go for a ride just go ahead, but like I said, you might be disappointed with how the bike feels, but you won't hurt it by doing so.
Hope this helps. - J
thank you, I am ready to ride, the ECU will be here in a just a few, I do have Vance and Hines twin slash full exhaust on it already, and the vo2 intake will be here in a couple days, thanks everyone
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Offline lunkhead

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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2020, 05:19:26 pm »
That exhaust is gonna kill performance, too. The stock collector helps with exhaust scavenging.
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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2020, 01:15:20 am »
That exhaust is gonna kill performance, too. The stock collector helps with exhaust scavenging.
Have to disagree with you, Lunk - the stock exhaust is every bit as good as ANY aftermarket exhaust you can buy....  it just SOUNDS like crap (not too mention LOOKS like the proverbial Whiffle-bat)!   Check out Ivan's Dyno numbers.... 

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Other than how the computer was originally programmed, The BIG problem with the bike is the intake, but in your case, too MUCH fuel is better than too little.  Too much will let your bike run COOLER (YES - Fuel helps COOL your engine!), while too little can easily overheat and blow holes in your pistons.  So running with the stock intake and Ivan's flash will NOT hurt your bike at all!
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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2020, 01:29:43 am »
Norm, I was referring to the twin slash he installed. It doesn't flow as well as the stock 2 into 1.

I'm not considering the fact that individual equal length headers with tuned "mufflers" COULD make more HP than a 2 into 1 system. Even though the dyno shows them almost equal at WOT, a 2 into 1 will have even better performance under more typical street riding speeds and conditions.
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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2020, 02:10:56 am »
Norm, I was referring to the twin slash he installed. It doesn't flow as well as the stock 2 into 1.

On that I WILL agree - 2 into 2 doesn't flow as well as 2 into 1 exhausts, even though the V&H Twin Slash does have a crossover - it's hidden, so it looks like straight pipes, and performs a LITTLE better.... still not as good as real 2 into 1, though.

Yeah - I do have a bias - I also have the Twin Slash.... and I LOVE the look and sound of them!  ;D   The biggest problem I had with them was the VOLUME!  I set off car alarms as I IDLED past them.... and got noise complaints from Harley riders with Straight pipes!  ;D ;D  I put in the baffles and the sound is still there, but the volume is turned down to a more neighbor-friendly level.  Although a quick twist of the Loud handle is still fun - especially in tunnels! ;D
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Re: Should I run it or wait
« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2020, 02:41:05 am »
I didn't know they had a crossover tube. It helps a little but not nearly as effective as a smooth merge and flow thru a common outlet.
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