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Offline wench

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File speedometer complaint
« on: April 16, 2014, 02:32:03 am »
If you have had problems reading your speedometer you can file a complaint at http://www.arfc.org/complaints/2014/yamaha/bolt/ the more people that report the problem the more attention it will get. I love my Bolt and my speedometer turning black in the sun is my only complaint. There are 13 complaints filed at this website on the 2014 Bolt and they are all the speedometer. Just thought I would share this info with my fellow Bolt owners.


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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2014, 02:56:55 am »
If you have had problems reading your speedometer you can file a complaint at http://www.arfc.org/complaints/2014/yamaha/bolt/ the more people that report the problem the more attention it will get. I love my Bolt and my speedometer turning black in the sun is my only complaint. There are 13 complaints filed at this website on the 2014 Bolt and they are all the speedometer. Just thought I would share this info with my fellow Bolt owners.


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That is NOT the source of the 13 complaints and NOT the place to file a complaint...although I am sure that you can and that system just pastes it into the actual organization that needs to be accessed...

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/owners/SearchSafetyIssues

And yes...this topic was discussed in another thread and at the end of the day, MOST members said they either they had absolutely NO problems seeing the LCD on the meter, didn't use the meter so they didn't need to read it or flat out could care less...

So, those complaint, mine included is a dead issue...and eventually will be filed into some archive at NTHSA...

I did a lobotomy on mine and replaced the LCD plexiglass in the meter cover with clear plexiglass and so I have absolutely no more viewing problem 24/7...

Art

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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2014, 03:25:11 am »
Actually if you click the link you can read all 13 complaints which are about the speedometer. And you can file a complaint at that site. I am a new rider and have only been riding a week at this time I am unable to judge my speed while on my bike. I was just trying to help since I have read lots of complaints about the speedometer.


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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2014, 05:07:13 am »
didn't realise there was a fix like yours Art.

I do find the speedo weird, when the sun is shining right over my shoulder onto the speedo screen it's completely legible. On a dull day it's OK, it's just on a bright day and the gauge is shaded it goes black.

I sympathise with you wench, I like to know my speed ... just by a quick glance, and I haven't just started riding. I mention the quick glance as I find myself sometimes trying to decipher just the first digit of my speed, it's not safe concentrating on that when you're riding!
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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2014, 07:17:09 am »
Yeah, there are three fixes, really.
Art's changeout of the speedo face is one.
The second is to mount a different speedo from an aftermarket source.
The other is to mount a GPS on the bike and use the speedo function from that. Bike speedos are notoriously inaccurate, especially after tire changes (different tires from stock), so the speedo on the bike is just a guide.
The speed you get from a GPS is really much more accurate because it's done by satellite.

Mounts can be attached to the handlebar, and faced at any height or angle you like. And a standalone gps is super cheap now, even waterproof ones, thanks to smartyphones. You can also use your smartphone mounted in a nice mount with a Google maps application running or one of the dedicated speedometer apps. 

When you get on the bike, you just snap it in the mount and plug it in to power, or don't plug it in, and take it off when you park.
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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2014, 07:46:52 am »
Actually if you click the link you can read all 13 complaints which are about the speedometer. And you can file a complaint at that site. I am a new rider and have only been riding a week at this time I am unable to judge my speed while on my bike. I was just trying to help since I have read lots of complaints about the speedometer.


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wench,
Let me apologize for the way that my last post might have come across...

First, I fully agree with your findings on the poor visibility of the Meter...its just that it became a sore subject with me after basically being slammed up against the wall by some members here...that it must be ME, that was having the problem because they had absolutely NO problems viewing theirs at any time or condition...

Anyway...on the URL you provided for the complaints...i understand that, that site does provide the means of filing a complaint, I went there and looked....all I am saying is, NHTSA (SafeCar) is the US Government Agency that oversees Recalls and accepts complaints...in addition to that, if you go to that link I posted, you can also review the recall that happened on the Yamaha Bolt last year...

kraven...SpeedOHealer or similar device will fix that error on the Speed...so will a Reflash...

Art
 
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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2014, 08:48:03 am »
Art,

Your apology is accepted. I agree 100% with you on there is a problem and my husband who actually rides a Stryker brought my bike home before I got my license and realized the problem in the short 30 min ride from the dealer home. He has been doing research as well because he views this as a safety concern even though he is a seasoned rider ( possibly taking it more to his heart because his beginner wife! Lol). Either way I just want everybody to be safe and have fun. That is the only reason I brought it up. I have searched through the forums and looked at the most recent posts about it and it looked like a lot of complaints about the same thing. I will look into the fixes mentioned and appreciate the ideas.

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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2014, 08:52:23 am »
First, I fully agree with your findings on the poor visibility of the Meter...its just that it became a sore subject with me after basically being slammed up against the wall by some members here...that it must be ME, that was having the problem because they had absolutely NO problems viewing theirs at any time or condition...

This type of thing happens a lot on any forum you might go to, in my experience.  Most people on any forum are obviously enthusiastic enough about their bike (or whatever) to seek out like-minded folks and all talk about it.  The ones who aren't as gung ho tend to either just lurk or only post a few times and then move on.  When you bring up anything that might be construed as a problem, some (NOT ALL) will knee-jerk to bashing you in defense of their beloved motorcycle.  Realistically speaking, it's hard to deny that the speedo can be difficult to read.  I can call my dog a cat, but that doesn't make it so.  Obviously it's an issue... it's just a matter of how much it bothers you.  Personally, I find the bottoming out of the rear suspension along with the uncomfortable seat to be a bigger problem, so I'm less concerned with the speedo.  YMMV.

I think if it's a problem to anyone, they should report it and seek out an acceptable solution.  If it doesn't matter, then I guess it doesn't matter.

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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2014, 09:20:53 am »
Pale Horse...well put...thanks for the post...

If you want to talk about the shocks and seat, to open up discussion, we can do that separately in a thread...I will help where I can...

Art

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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2014, 09:36:34 am »
Quote from: cvvmax

kraven...SpeedOHealer or similar device will fix that error on the Speed...so will a Reflash...

Art

Of course. But the intersection of intermittent speedo blindness and the linear digression of the speedo can both be dealt with by using a gps or gps app.
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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2014, 09:57:26 am »
Wench...what a fun first bike! Enjoy. As Art mentioned, with time you will know about how fast you’re going, with traffic it's even easier. I will suggest during this period to try not and over-focus on the issue (pay attention to riding instead 8))

I've been on bikes since 1978 and have pretty much learned by gear and sound about where I'm at (from "just about right" to “oh crap, that's way over)...I don't ride rockets anymore.

The speedo is an issue for me to. I'll hold off on mods during any warrantee period but keep up to date on some possible fixes. I like the look with the bike so I'll keep it.
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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2014, 10:33:49 am »
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kraven...SpeedOHealer or similar device will fix that error on the Speed...so will a Reflash...

Art

Of course. But the intersection of intermittent speedo blindness and the linear digression of the speedo can both be dealt with by using a gps or gps app.

Agreed...the SpeedOHealer will not take care of the non-linear speed differential curve...it's close not not perfect...

And the GPS unit are accurate, if you get constant hits from the satellites...for the most part you do, but on mine, at times, there are "blips"...

But at least there are options available...

Art

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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2014, 10:48:08 am »
I can see how this can be an issue for newbies.  For me, coming from almost 20 years of sportbikes, if anything, I'll feel like I'm going faster than I really am on the Bolt rather than the other way around.  So I'll probably leave well enough alone until I see a cost effective alternative speedo (analog only please).

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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2014, 11:35:17 am »
I'm anxious to see if there's a '15 Bolt part upgrade for the speedo. It'd be nice to buy a '15 speedometer over the parts counter for a plug n play fix.
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Re: File speedometer complaint
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2014, 01:52:19 pm »
I'd prefer an oldschool analog speedometer. I have had many issues with the screen, especially on slightly overcast days, or if I am wearing sunglasses.

Side Note:  I'm happy for people that don't have an issue, but piping up to say "that didn't happen to me at all" when people are looking for, "here's what I did to fix it" is annoying; if it didnt happen to you, how could you possibly be furthering a discussion aimed at fixing it?

Maybe your input would be better suited to a poll.........
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